Evangelist Ebenezer Obey, who turned 75 years on Sunday
has revealed that before he and his sister were born, his mother, a
hardworking cloth seller was married to her first husband for 20 years and never got pregnant.
In the exclusive interview
published by The Guardian, titled “Ebenezer Obey marks 75th birthday
with music, foundation and training Institute” he narrated the story of
his birth, growing up in Idogo, a farming settlement in Ogun State,
spoke glowingly about his mother, whom he love more than his father,
among other issues.
So, the family of the man called my mother’s family and spoke to
them.
‘Well, they have both tried for 20 years, no issue. While we love
Iyawo, we want both of them to go their separate ways and try their
luck’. They want their son to marry another woman and they want my
mother to go. So for a woman who loves her husband, it was a shock, and
that was too much for my mother to bear. And when my mother’s relations
saw her situation, she was crying, all the time, they told her to go to
Idogo and hide her head. Her two elders brothers were living in Idogo
then. That was what took my mother to Idogo.
“On getting to Idogo, my father proposed to marry my mother and God
answered their prayers. The woman, who never got pregnant before became
pregnant with my late sister, then myself. My father later left Idogo.
He wanted my mother to go with him but my mother said, ‘no, Idogo is a
place where God covered my nakedness, when they said I couldn’t have an
issue.’ So, she stayed there. But the fact is that my mother was coming
to Lagos for maternity care (while pregnant with me) because at the
time, there was no hospital in Idogo. And that was why I was born in
Lagos at Mercy Street Hospital. By birth I am a Lagosian and
immediately, my mother took me back to Idogo. I grew up in Idogo,
schooled in Idogo; my everything, music everything, career, started
there. That is why I say that I am a Nigerian. God has given me the
whole world as my territory. My parents are from Ogun State, both of
them from Abeokuta. I was born in Lagos, taken back to Idogo and grew up
in Idogo. That is my story.
On why he tends to love his mother more than his father, Obey revealed
“Let me say this, I love my father and I love my mother. But I love
my mother more. The reason is this. When my father was leaving Idogo, he
left my sister and I with my mother as babies. He had two other wives;
so, he came to Lagos to meet his other two wives. He never came back a
day to say, let me go and see my two children and my wife. I didn’t know
my father until I was seven years old. But yet, I love my father, I did
everything for my father. I built a house for him. I made him happy.
And I equally made my mother happy. But I cannot forget the women who
paid my school fees, the caring and all that she did was something that I
can never forget.
“The woman came to this world just to live for her children. I don’t
think I have ever seen any woman like that. Her everything was for her
children. I saw that, I knew that, I cherish that, I appreciate that. I
gave my father every good thing of life, took good care of him and we
joked about it: ‘Daddy, why did you do that?’ And he said he knew my
mother was very industrious, that anything she laid her hand upon
succeeded. He knew that my mother would take care of us because he knew
my mother’s interest was about her children. But we joked about it that
that was not enough.
Read the full interview below:
I wonder which name you are most comfortable with, Chief Commander or Evangelist Ebenezer Obey?
They are both valid.
Congratulations on your 75th birthday What shape is the celebration going to take?
To clock 75 on earth is a thing of joy. It is by the mercy of God to
attain this stage and it calls for thanking God and appreciating His
goodness in one’s life. So, it calls for celebration and we kick-started
the birthday activities with a police post that I built in Idogo, in
Yewa South Local Government, Ogun State, where I grew up, where
everything about me started. We started it last Thursday, March 23 and
the main event comes up tomorrow, Monday, April 3, which happens to be
my birthday, in Abeokuta. The church service will be starting by 10am to
12noon. King Sunny Ade will perform among many other artistes.
Immediately after that, we are going to have the reception and launching
of the Ebenezer Obey Music Foundation and Training Institute. It will
be affiliated to Olabisi Onabanjo University in Ogun State. It is a
youth empowerment and training institute. That is how we are going to
celebrate.
The foundation will be endowing a chair in the university?
Yes.
Will it involve all kinds of music since you are mostly gospel?
It is not going to be restricted to gospel music, but music generally
because if it is limited to gospel music it will be limited to a few
people. I want people to benefit from the institute. Whatever they gain
or after the training, people who want to specialise in gospel music can
adapt to that. We don’t want it to be limited to gospel music so that
others can benefit.
Because it is an endowment, does it mean that anybody who gets in will study for free?
No, the board of trustees is working out the best way for the
training institute. It is something that I want to be sustained even
after I might have gone. I am looking for something that will last long.
Like leaving a legacy?
Yes; so, that is why the board of trustees is putting everything
together. The one that is going to be in Abeokuta will not stop us from
having endowments in other universities as well. That may be specific
scholarships. It is to spread my good gesture and my intention to such
lives.
Just now you mentioned building a police post in Idogo. One would
have expected you would say something like a hospital or school. Why a
police post?
Well, it depends on circumstances. I do other things in the community
there but I host the police post in my house in the town. I gave them
an apartment that they were using for the police post free of charge.
But the police asked for a place of their own not attached to a house.
Idogo happens to be very close to the border. Left to the people of
Idogo, they are not troublesome people; they are peaceful people. But
notwithstanding, the security of our property and people is important.
So, they don’t want the police post to continue in my house and if there
is no police post, they want to move the police from Idogo back to
Ilaro. Then the police would be coming from Ilaro to see to the security
of that place. I know that that also is not good. It would have been
okay if a police post had never been there before. For that reason, I
saw it as a need and because there was a need, I provided that.
What is the true story of your birth? Where were you born and where did you grow up?
The true story of my life is this: I am a Nigerian (laughter). Number
one. And as a Nigerian, God has given me the whole territory of
performances where my message has been accepted. I operate from Nigeria,
then go international. I have been to almost of every part of the
world, and even in Nigeria. My music is all over the four corners of
Nigeria. But I am more frequent in the South West. I go on tour in the
north, and South East. Like I said, the entire world is my territory.
Still on my origin, both my parents, my mother and my father, are from
Abeokuta. My father is an Egba man and my mother is an Owu woman, but
they left Abeokuta to Idogo. My father was a carpenter and my mother was
a cloth seller, very industrious. So, it took my mother several years,
almost 20 years in her first husband’s house and she was never pregnant.
So, the family of the man called my mother’s family and spoke to
them. ‘Well, they have both tried for 20 years, no issue. While we love
Iyawo, we want both of them to go their separate ways and try their
luck’. They want their son to marry another woman and they want my
mother to go. So for a woman who loves her husband, it was a shock, and
that was too much for my mother to bear. And when my mother’s relations
saw her situation, she was crying, all the time, they told her to go to
Idogo and hide her head. Her two elders brothers were living in Idogo
then. That was what took my mother to Idogo.
On getting to Idogo, my father proposed to marry my mother and God
answered their prayers. The woman, who never got pregnant before became
pregnant with my late sister, then myself. My father later left Idogo.
He wanted my mother to go with him but my mother said, ‘no, Idogo is a
place where God covered my nakedness, when they said I couldn’t have an
issue.’ So, she stayed there. But the fact is that my mother was coming
to Lagos for maternity care (while pregnant with me) because at the
time, there was no hospital in Idogo. And that was why I was born in
Lagos at Mercy Street Hospital. By birth I am a Lagosian and
immediately, my mother took me back to Idogo. I grew up in Idogo,
schooled in Idogo; my everything, music everything, career, started
there. That is why I say that I am a Nigerian. God has given me the
whole world as my territory. My parents are from Ogun State, both of
them from Abeokuta. I was born in Lagos, taken back to Idogo and grew up
in Idogo. That is my story.
You tend to mention your mum more; you want to tell us why?
Let me say this, I love my father and I love my mother. But I love my
mother more. The reason is this. When my father was leaving Idogo, he
left my sister and I with my mother as babies. He had two other wives;
so, he came to Lagos to meet his other two wives. He never came back a
day to say, let me go and see my two children and my wife. I didn’t know
my father until I was seven years old. But yet, I love my father, I did
everything for my father. I built a house for him. I made him happy.
And I equally made my mother happy. But I cannot forget the women who
paid my school fees, the caring and all that she did was something that I
can never forget.
The woman came to this world just to live for her children. I don’t
think I have ever seen any woman like that. Her everything was for her
children. I saw that, I knew that, I cherish that, I appreciate that. I
gave my father every good thing of life, took good care of him and we
joked about it: ‘Daddy, why did you do that?’ And he said he knew my
mother was very industrious, that anything she laid her hand upon
succeeded. He knew that my mother would take care of us because he knew
my mother’s interest was about her children. But we joked about it that
that was not enough…
So, I saw the woman struggling, trying everything. I knew all she
went through and I appreciate that. Before she died, she told me things.
You know, mothers call their children my husband. I built a house for
my mother in Abeokuta. I built a house for my father in Abeokuta. I have
my own buildings there also. My mother called me and told me ‘Aremu, ma
fi Idogo le’. That is, ‘don’t leave Idogo. She said, ‘Idogo, ilu ti
olorun bo asiri mi’. That is, ‘that is where God covered my nakedness
when they said I couldn’t have an issue and I came here, I had both male
and female.’ There is no third one, it is either male or female. And
when my father didn’t come for four years, when my mother didn’t see my
father, she became pregnant and gave birth to my junior brother. That
was how she was able to have three children. But like I said, I love my
father; I loved him, but the way he saw it was that my mother was
industrious. But I appreciate the woman. If she didn’t do all she did, I
wouldn’t be what I am today. The care was so much. We never had any
lack. Because she was a cloth seller our uniform in those days, the
khaki was velvet; that was the colour of the khaki – that was what my
mother sewed for us in school. We were different, and we looked
different and well-taken care of and everybody could see and attest to
that. That is enough for anyone to continue to love one’s dear mother.
You said you grew up in Idogo and also schooled there. So, did your music career also start in Idogo?
Yes, it did. Immediately I was born, my mother started taking me to
church. My mother loved God so much and I grew up to see myself in the
church. So, I was introduced to music from the church. I became a member
of the choir, a member of the school band and later the school’s band
leader. And when we had Idogo Boys and Girls Club, I became one of them.
When they formed an orchestra, I was one of them and actually, I was
holding a very prominent position in the choir, the school band and the
boys and girls youth club, and in the band that was formed from the boys
and girls youth club. I was the vocal lead, though I was the youngest
and I was the star of the band.
I formed my first band in the year 1957, called Royal Mambo
Orchestra. That was how it all started. I moved to Lagos and continued
my music with two elderly men Akinyomi Savage and Bamgbose Jumoda, alias
Abengo Mayana. It was through them that I met Fatai Rolling Dollar, who
was my band leader for about six years. I was his second in command
before I started my own band.
Did you leave Fatai Rolling Dollars to form The International Brothers or what was the sequence of your progression?
Yes, Inter-Reformers Band.
How did that movement go, how did that transition take place?
International Brothers Band became known in the world and I just
decided to change the name of the band to International Reformers Band,
which became Inter-Reformers Band from International Reformed Band.
What was the need for the change?
I lost one of my members, Oke Aminu, with whom I actually grew up in
Idogo and went to school together. He was my junior in school. When I
even formed my band, Royal Mambo Orchestra, he was my second-in-command.
I was the one who initiated his coming to Lagos. Because I was
progressing and I wanted to do a reformation that is why International
Reformed Band was abbreviated to Inter-Reformer Band
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